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The Dr. I've been seeing for the last year keeps insisting that my brain fog is just depression. She also says there is no reason for me not to be working.
A little background I am a 46 yo female who has worked physical jobs most my life. I was working in construction when I was first told fibromyalgia in '07. I have been on a slow decline since then both physically, mentally and financially. The recession and a series of unfortunate events took place not long after that has ultimately led me to have no job and now no home of my own. When I first went to this new Dr. I was depressed but but I've been to a therapist and now I'm just to the point of being a little blue about my situation. I can no longer do the physical jobs and I have dyslexia, I can't type fast and the brain fog keeps me form doing an office job. So after many years and many failed jobs I thought I'd apply for disability. But this Dr. thinks I should be able to work so I guess first I will try one more time to find a job I can manage and if that doesn't work I will find another Dr. who believs me.
I've had several Dr.s in the past who were more understanding but I moved too far to go see them. I also have a thyroid condition, the one that makes you fat. Lol you know what I'm saying.
I guess I just wanted to know if this was common for a Dr. to dismiss the fog as just depression. She literally said "if I could just deal with the depression I would not have brain fog" . I know that depression and brain fog go together but I've always thought you could have one without the other.
I told her it was too bad she thought that because she doesn't know I AM one bad @__ woman who isn't lazy and got a college degree even though I have dyslexia and was a single mom of 2 toddlers. I guess she thinks I am just trying to fake it a scam the gov for disability but she doesn't know is I've been putting off filing for 7 years and it hurt(my feelers) to make that first call to a disability lawyer. I've tried everything not to do that including my own business and loosing all my money to get it going. Gesh! It's just frustrating ya know. I'm also curious if anyone out there has been able to get disability with just fibromyalgia and a thyroid condition.
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Default Re: Dr say brain fog is just depression

Early on when I was going to many specialists to help diagnose what was wrong with me, a neurologist thought my brain fog was due to depression. Fortunately, my regular Dr. was up on fibromyalgia/CFS and knew me better.

Most everyone applying for SS disability (either SSI or SSDI) is going to have an uphill battle on their hands. Documentation of your illness and inability to work is paramount. If your current Drs. are not supportive of your claim, it will be near impossible to prove to SS that you are disabled.

You say you are currently running your own business. Are you making what the SSA considers significant gainful activity (SGA). In 2017 it's $1170/mo. If you are working and earning this amount or more, SS does not consider you disabled.

If you aren't familiar with the SS disability process, you might want to take a look at this Social Security Administration publication, "Disability Benefits":

https://www.ssa.gov/pubs/EN-05-10029.pdf

Please also look over SSA's SSR 12-2p, "Evaluation of Fibromylagia":

https://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/rulings/...-02-di-01.html

Also, most lawyers will not take on a SS disability case until after you apply and get your 1st denial.

Best of luck to you!
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Terbaer posted some good advice on applying for SS disability in this forum in an earlier thread:

Approved for SSD - Tips and info if you are looking to apply in the U.S.
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About " disability " in my experience "disability comp" seems to often be conditional on factors that have little to do with whether or not a person deserves or is even entitled to it. Also, there is a huge business out there for attorney's who's area of expertise is ONLY DISABILITY CLAIMS. More often than not they only take your case if they think they can win. They take a significant piece of the settlement upfront. For many it's worth it especially if the settlement lasts your whole life.
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About " disability " in my experience "disability comp" seems to often be conditional on factors that have little to do with whether or not a person deserves or is even entitled to it. Also, there is a huge business out there for attorney's who's area of expertise is ONLY DISABILITY CLAIMS. More often than not they only take your case if they think they can win. They take a significant piece of the settlement upfront. For many it's worth it especially if the settlement lasts your whole life.
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I don't know anything about disability regulations anywhere else in the world. Where I live, fibromyalgia or any mental illness does not qualify one for disability. It is really really sad and unfair. People with mental illness or an invisible illness such as fibro/cfs simply stay at home, live with their parents their whole life and have no independence or support whatsoever. I sadly am one of those people. I am thankful for the years I was able to work and save some. From that money, I buy my mom and sister, who support me, a gift every month. I am so thankful I have them.

But back to the depression vs fibro fog. As anyone who has had depression and fibro fog will tell you, they are different things. On many points, they do intersect, but I have been depressed and have not had fibro fog, and I have had fibro fog, but no depression. And I have had them both at the same time as well. Depression for me is darkness, loss of interest, emptiness, numbness, I don't want to do anything. Fibro fog, on the other hand, I am very willing to do things, but am not able to do it mentally. I can't concentrate, have these dull headaches (more like a heavy head), not being able to come up with words, get easily frustrated/irritated etc.

So any doctor who says fibro fog is depression is a doctor who does not know what fibro fog is. Or even what depression is. If you can, please find another doctor. A more educated doctor, one who understands fibro real well.

Hope you shake this negative experience off real quick. Negative people are not worth the little energy and positivity we have inside.
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Default Re: Dr say brain fog is just depression

Hi Firechicken,



Yes you can have Fibro fog as they call it, without Depression.Some doctors that are not educated on Fibromyalgia might try to blend them together,but they are two separate entities.

They are correct that u need a supportive doctor in order to go thru the disability process.And having two diseases helps.It can be difficult to get an approval with just Fibromyalgia.
It can be a long process but it's doable.

I would say go with the lawyer if you don't get approved the first time.Its some much stress and work to organize everything,that a lawyer helps immensely.I would call a lawyer now and get advice from him, so he can explain everything to u.

Wish u luck


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